tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862962739221411030.post122553312386372957..comments2022-03-25T15:00:59.645-05:00Comments on Musical Mayhem by Paul Carey, composer: A score is not musicPaul Careyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06476673324774610488noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862962739221411030.post-5013745721950311382009-09-04T20:10:33.365-05:002009-09-04T20:10:33.365-05:00Ooh, I like this discussion a whole lot. And the ...Ooh, I like this discussion a whole lot. And the fact that Tom Carter is in on this is super awesome and makes me want to fire off a quick reply. My first thought was not that "all choirs should memorize because it is so much better" but, rather, the expectations that we have as audience members.<br /><br />And, in the interest of this argument I'm going to make a devil's advocate-style, sweeping generalization that is in direct contrast to what Tom is saying: choir concerts are not theatrical events. <br /><br />They are musical performances in the same tradition as an instrumental concert. Why is it that we expect choirs to hold our focus with anything other than the music? Would we take issue with an orchestra who doesn't look us in the eye when they're performing a Prokofiev symphony? Probably not but, frankly, if an orchestra could do that I would probably pay top dollar.<br /><br />That being said, this is no excuse for a crappy performance.<br /><br />There. $0.02 deposited.<br /><br />Josh<br /><br />p.s. Your blog is awesome, Paul. Keep up the great work!Joshua Shankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13525534759853526768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862962739221411030.post-70567777284473107172009-08-25T12:23:48.491-05:002009-08-25T12:23:48.491-05:00John,
Thanks for giving us a window into your str...John,<br /><br />Thanks for giving us a window into your struggles. I'm sure no director reading this wants to exclude singers from enjoying the choral experience.<br /><br />That said, I think there are ways to memorize that make for more (and quicker) success, and I would encourage directors to use them. (I've posted above about some of them, but there are lots more -- all of which increase the brain's access points to the information.)<br /><br />And while I would never want to exclude a singer from participating because they simply COULD NOT memorize, I believe there are benefits to struggling and winning. <br /><br />I'm also wondering if singers who struggle to memorize shifted their mindset -- seeing the struggle as an opportunity for growth rather than a frustratingly negative experience -- if that would help. <br /><br />I can certainly imagine (if I interpolate similar life experiences onto this scenario) that the DIRECTOR'S attitude can greatly help. If the director is positive, patient, kind, helpful -- and not frustrated, judgmental, insensitive, and critical -- that the singer's experience might be very different. <br /><br />However, all that said, IF a singer has a learning challenge that absolutely precludes their ability to memorize, then I think something could be worked out so they could hold the music. If the director wanted to help them save face (if that were an issue), the director could ask for several other volunteers to hold their music as well -- perhaps folks spread throughout the choir. They could even just hold the folder with ONE piece of music, so it's as light as possible.<br /><br />Another option (Philip Copeland, what do you think?) would be to project the music on the wall (or a screen) behind the audience. (Think opera supertitles, but with the score AND text.) <br /><br />All my best,<br /><br />Tom CarterTom Carterhttp://www.choralcharisma.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862962739221411030.post-61346479728950845152009-08-25T07:54:37.481-05:002009-08-25T07:54:37.481-05:00Certainly memorization has benefits, but it is not...Certainly memorization has benefits, but it is not the "be all". I have always fought a learning disability and as a student of opera, I struggled to learn the score. It took so much joy out the experience wondering which phrase may not come to my brain "rightly and in time" that I always felt truly panicked and directors hated me because I had glitches until dress week! Oratorio and choral music came so very naturally, my sight-reading is a strong gift and having the score for reference gave me peace and brought back the joy and that is where I have made my career and calling. I do some memorization for my choral conducting because as a conductor I feel it important to maintain eye contact with my choir but I am sympathetic for those who truly struggle. Memorization is yet another discipline that should be practiced regularly like sight-singing and vocal exercises but should not be another gimmick that will exclude certain singers.John ONealhttp://sbcglobal.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862962739221411030.post-72893382723114573662009-08-24T20:49:44.140-05:002009-08-24T20:49:44.140-05:00I have a question, Mr. Carey. How often do these ...I have a question, Mr. Carey. How often do these choirs who memorize their music, have rehearsals. Do they rehearse together multiple times a month, or are they expected to learn these new pieces, words and music on their own?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862962739221411030.post-68075700824554160052009-08-24T13:32:42.804-05:002009-08-24T13:32:42.804-05:00Hey Paul!
I agree completely, and would invite t...Hey Paul! <br /><br />I agree completely, and would invite those directors who allow their singers to hold the music to consider their reasoning; why don't they have the singers memorize? <br /><br />Unless we're talking a major work, I'll bet the reasons are more aligned with low expectations and lack of confidence. "My singers are too ___________ and therefore won't be able to memorize." In my experience, I've heard answers ranging from "old" to "immature" to "rushed." With everything in between.<br /><br />I would also propose that there's a simple solution for this -- high expectations and an attitude of "I know you can do it." <br /><br />In practical terms, that means telling singers to memorize by a certain date, then NOT LETTING THEM HOLD THE MUSIC from that day onward. Other ways to aide in the memorization process include the following:<br /><br />1) Sing a phrase. Take ten seconds to look at the phrase and sing it silently to yourself. Put the music down and sing that phrase. Bingo! Singers learn that memorizing is very doable. Now keep moving through the song, never looking at the measures that are already memorized.<br /><br />2) Assign memorization dates page by page, or section by section. Bite-sized chunks make it less daunting.<br /><br />3) Focus on more than the technical; imagining that bluebird soaring over the mountain lake, drawing the song with the whole body (thanks Tim Caldwell for that), telling the singer next to you about this (imaginary) moment when you saw the bluebird, creating a story which will support the singing of The Bluebird.... All of that will create neural networks and make it MUCH EASIER AND FASTER to memorize.<br /><br />All my best,<br /><br />Tom<br />www.choralcharisma.comTom Carterhttp://www.choralcharisma.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862962739221411030.post-76184851642515267132009-08-24T12:32:04.804-05:002009-08-24T12:32:04.804-05:00OK folks, I agree fully. What techniques work bes...OK folks, I agree fully. What techniques work best to promote memorization by those of us with "aging brains?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862962739221411030.post-4501551442171146012009-08-24T08:28:20.212-05:002009-08-24T08:28:20.212-05:00Bravo, Paul! AND....what is best for the choir al...Bravo, Paul! AND....what is best for the choir also goes for the director. So much more communication can happen between a director and the choir when both have the score internalized, get away from the written page, and truly experience the music together.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05953640300672673063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862962739221411030.post-59111385819355000922009-08-24T07:17:33.502-05:002009-08-24T07:17:33.502-05:00Yes, I'm with you too, for all the reasons you...Yes, I'm with you too, for all the reasons you state. However, I do think we need to keep all these reasons in mind and not just fall into learning by rote. Memorizing for the sake of it has no great virtue in itself, whereas memorizing as a means to connect more deeply with the music and to open to the audience is a very valuable goal. Memorizing is the means to the artistic ends, not the end itself.liz garnetthttp://www.helpingyouharmonise.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862962739221411030.post-13864387494435503452009-08-23T14:10:13.308-05:002009-08-23T14:10:13.308-05:00Absolutely! The choir I sing with, New Dublin Voic...Absolutely! The choir I sing with, New Dublin Voices, are heading to Helsinki in a few weeks to take part in a competition so we're all in memorise mode at the moment. Rehearsals start back on Tuesday after the summer break...so I'd better get back to it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862962739221411030.post-21270463329713497222009-08-23T10:39:53.078-05:002009-08-23T10:39:53.078-05:00Your post brings to mind something an extremely gi...Your post brings to mind something an extremely gifted conductor/composer once challenged his choir with: "Excellence or Excuses. Choose one."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13679327670807537644noreply@blogger.com